For sale is Inland M1 Carbine ser# 3064171. to manufacture barrels. An Ordnance supplement
Since many of the parts were produced by subcontractors often hundreds, if not thousands, of miles apart, the parkerizing found on such parts would certainly not be expected to be uniform. Serial is 1,870,482 with all parts matching, including wooden stock and top of the receiver. There is virtually no color distinction between
It's an S'G' not an S.G. Barrel Date: March, 1943, Action Type:Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. You certain the receiver is S'G'? These marking(s) and their location(s) varied based on needs and/or intent. Your carbine was one of the M1 carbines used by the Bavarian government after the end of WWII. *Post Reserved in case I run out of space*. Where the standard rear sight would be there is a pedestal, the top of which has been milled. American Black Walnut was the most common wood used. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. My guess is that since the receiver has the SG on the left front, it's probably a Saginaw-Saginaw and not a Saginaw-Grand Rapids (IP). Refer to the page on Post World War II Activities for a list of the markings and further information. Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. SOLD - Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine. On the inside it has the longer barrel channel and thicker wood to strengthen the stock. My IP is in the first serial block--1776xxx. The smooth push button safety is marked IP-W which was used by Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG (page 95). The Discussion Forum also serves as a reference desk for the more advanced material that could easily overwhelm a website and is often subject to opinions that may vary
standard for all type V M2 pot belly stocks by all manufacturers. Excellent overall condition. Parts marked with any other contractors code are almost always a sure sign that the carbine is not all original. A few manufacturers used some serial number blocks out of order. The letter X preceding the serial number
I've got one with (JJ) in a circle , on the flipper, on a Winchester. The bottom of the grip is marked with a circled P proof. had passed inspection. Therefore, if any other carbine has this type of barrel band, it is not all original. .. Swivels: Unmarked -Underwood: Didn't mark them. for use with a select fire mechanism. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Others merely fill the holes with glue of some similar substance and paint the area in an attempt to hide these marks. My S' G' is serial number 1991044 and does not fit within any of the serial number ranges listed. two Ordnance rebuild P's. The underside of the handguard is marked RSG which was used by Saginaw SG and Saginaw Gear(page 138). Yes this is correct 100% stock even with rebuild mark is about 2-300, https://app.photobucket.com/u/SupraR0-39ecec2fbcbc. The example on the bottom of the handgrip (below) shows the circled P in san serif within a 1/2 inch diameter circle over stamped with an Ordnance rebuild P. Carbines having been rebuilt more than once will sometimes have
annual growth rings, giving Birch a somewhat dull, uniform appearance. IMMEDIATELY its how business should be done. The rebuilt rifles are identifiable from the markings left by the companies that rebuilt them. subcontractors, suppliers, members of the military or government, and others to show appreciation for their assistance and cooperation
Ordnance depots outside the continental U.S. and foreign facilities contracted by U.S. Box, Paperwork & Accessories:There is no magazine. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. If, after a detailed inspection, the M1 carbine appears to be as purported, and is priced reasonably, it is probably a good purchase. I'm guessing this indicates a Springfield Armory rebuild. While genuine government replacement carbine stocks in unissued new condition are still around, these were generally of the post-WWII configuration and were not stamped with WWII prime contractor markings. This product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. The serial numbers allocated to these carbines were as follows. Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good Plus condition. CARBINE / CAL. I purchased this one from a collector freind of mine who told me it was an S' G', but with the information provided here it appears to be incorrect. Also, have bandoliers & stripper clips & sling. Most of the markings are deep. What caught my eyes right at the start when I purchased the little rifle was the unusual rear sight. No specific manufacture dates are listed due to a number of reasons explained on pages 24 to 26 of Scott Duffs book, The M1 Carbine Owners Guide. Among the most sought after U.S. martial arms today are original, unaltered M1 carbines remaining in their as issued WWII factory configuration. Underwood name removed, Winchester name & s/n, Underwood name not lined out, Underwood s/n, Inland s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, Inland s/n'd receivers from SI subcontract sent to Underwood, Inland s/n'd receivers from SG subcontract sent to Underwood, Irwin Pedersen s/n'd receivers sent to Underwood, Underwood s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, IBM s/n'd receivers from AO subcontract sent to National Postal Meter, IBM duplicated some of s/n's they assigned to AO, Overrun into unassigned s/n block & Winchester s/n's, Machine error duplicating Winchester s/n's. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for M1 Carbine, Buttplate I believe to be for Saginaw and Inland. These marks have been oiled. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. I'll give you $150.00 for it so you can double your return. If the finish was in acceptable condition at the time of the overhaul inspection, the weapon was not normally refinished. block in the same time frame. Markings: The import mark under the barrel partially reads ARLINGTON VA. reconstruction of this history, we have a short survey on our forum (with instructions)
Carbines having any other letter(s) on the receiver are beyond the scope of the information on this particular page. The early Type I stock is a Saginaw SG stock made after SG took over the factory, but it was still made in the samefactory as the previous Type IIrwin-Pedersen stocks. and is not a very late production Inland or Winchester, one may rest assured that the piece is a post-war rebuild or has been assembled from parts. The front sight is marked 6 on the left and N on the top which was used by Irwin-Pedersen and others (page 56). This Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine uses almost all original Irwin-Pedersen parts that were made prior to Saginaw SG taking over. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. The buttplate shows light scrapes & some discoloration along the edge. Underwood supplied barrels for Irwin-Pedersen (page 50). Ser. organized, dont tell you a lot about what youre buying, and leave you on your
You may have been hiding under a rock if youve not yet heard of the new SIG Sauer MCX Spear. Some of these blocks were split up and used before or after other blocks. Carbines with a Serial Number above 8 million. marked: AI,SI, JI,or KI(INLAND) M1 Carbine Barrel Band Type 3 (bayonet lug) Used G.I. for you to submit by CLICKING HERE. Our goal is to encourage collectors by providing honest descriptions, fair prices, and the best customer service. Overall, the gun is in nice condition. The U.S. Carbine Caliber .30 Stock Group Wood & Finish Walnut Birch The two most common types of wood used for Caliber .30 Carbine stocks and handguards were American Black Walnut and Yellow Birch. Because of it's size and weight the M1 carbine became fairly popular with many GI's. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements. Saginaw took over production in Grand Rapids and marked the facilities M1 Carbines SG to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant. Winchester continued this practice with their type IV M2 stocks and it became the
If you just purchased it you know the "value", if acquired some other way a picture would be necessary to give you a good idea. departments within Inland over the years of production. The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture. It is this
Here is a brief explanation as to why they are highly sought after by M1 Carbine collectors. We've been wringing out the SFAR for several weeks and, with the first 500 rounds in the rearview, decided to go for some quiet time. The stamps used for the Caliber .30 Carbine stocks are also available. Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors Grand Rapids. Serial numbered receivers transferred were not restricted to a certain block of serial numbers. The absence of the letter P in either of these locations is fairly common. Irwin-Pedersendid not produce barrels. There is fouling and intermittent light erosion in the grooves. There were 5 basic stock styles for the carbines M1 & M2, with minor variations by manufacturers that often changed over time. Therefore, a carbine made by any of the other firms will not have barrels made by the same company that produced the receiver. A few stock and/or carbine restoration
All original WWII carbine bolts are believed to have been blued. G.S. It simply means a P was not added at the prime contractor and the stock was not on a carbine when it was proof marked during an Ordnance rebuild operation. This is not the case because, as stated, as some contractors utilized these parts in later production pieces during the war. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. We got our hands on one of the original MCXs for some testing. Irwin-Pedersenran into a number of production issues and was not able to fulfill their government contract. All Rights Reserved. Make: Saginaw SG. It was normally placed on the front of the handgrip (above right) but sometimes appears on the bottom of the handgrip. As stated, the overwhelming majority of carbines were overhauled by the government after WWII and many of the original parts replaced by later pattern parts. In 1942 the Ordinance District requested of General Motors Saginaw Steering Gear Division take over the M1 carbine production assigned to Irwin The magazine is marked I-P-K upside down which is an Irwin-Pedersen mark not listed in our source material (page 142 -143). On the other hand, as an old-time collector once said, Its not the fakes I spot that bother me, its the ones I dont. Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. Bore Condition:The bore is bright; semi bright at the muzzle. Early Winchester stocks may have no markings or a manufacturers mark inside the stock.Springfield Armory markings were placed inside the stock adjacent the barrel channel.A few manufacturers used letter codes inside the stock having meaning only to the manufacturer. Get a heads up on all of our Sales, Promotions, and news updates (about 1 email per month). Many of the marks have damaged small portions of the surface wood. That's peDersen with a "D", by the way. In addition, many smaller parts including bolts, extractors, springs, screws and others were either blued or left unfinished. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. Photograph has been reversed to show the appearance of markings that would be produced by the fake stamps. It appears to read S. Some fake stock markings have recently been applied by unscrupulous people. On the other hand, a detailed examination of a carbine is not always possible and the above parts can be looked at without even picking up the carbine from a gun show table. Saginaw marked the Grand Rapids factory M1 Carbines SG to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant. Such markings can be sanded off by someone wishing to remove such evidence so any sanded areas make the stock suspect. A little history of Saginaw (S.G.) and its carbines. Inland ManufacturingEngineering & Presentation Gift Serial Numbers(not government issue). A circled P in san serif within a 1/2 inch diameter circle stamped in the bottom of the handgrip (above left) was sometimes used as a proof mark at several prime contractor facilities to indicate a completed carbine
The rifling is sharp. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. to the assigned serial number blocks. The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. I'm sure it's not all original. The sling well is marked IR-IP which was used byIrwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG(page 108 109). numbers (i.e. My Saginaw serial 332xxxx also doesn't have any dots, just SAGINAW SG. Questions should be posted in the appropriate forum. The stocks were also stamped with code markings which are normally found inside of the sling recess on the left side. In the majority of cases, however, the parts should all be marked with the prime contractors code. The rifle comes with a 15 round magazine. The barrel flat is marked with a flaming bomb. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. PRICE LOWERED BY $500 WAS 5999.99, WARNING! You sir have seemed to have done a lot of research on the history of each manufacture. Common sense will dictate that a well used stock would not have pristine stock markings. Generally speaking, there is nothing wrong with a competently restored carbine, Probably the quickest way to determine if a carbine remains in its as issued World War II configuration is to examine a few key parts. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? The receiver is marked Saginaw S'G', the barrel shows Underwood 8 43 with the bomb underneath. Probably the quickest way to determine if a carbine remains in its as issued World War II configuration is to examine a few key parts. We believe we sell living history, and honor the veterans who fought and died for our freedoms. The two most common types of wood used for caliber .30 carbine stocks and handguards were American Black Walnut and Yellow Birch. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) is marked X and has a tooling hole at the rear. Military AAY inspector stamp on left of stock near reciever. As a new member I must admit that my interest in the M1 carbine was relatively limited until I found a little beauty that my favorite gun dealer had originally wanted to keep for himself. 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. Oval sling cut, Low Wood exposes slide. Saginaw (S.G.)-Main Manufacture and identification codes: "S.G."-Main plant location: Saginaw, Michigan.-Average Cost to Government per completed rifle, $38.00 service to the online gun buying experience that is unheard of. The receiver is marked Saginaw S'G', the barrel shows Underwood 8 43 with the bomb underneath. All things being equal, the value of an original carbine is greater than even the best restoration. It's the first I've seen. Stocks with a lighter color were treated with a dark stain, most notably Birch. With World War 2 M1 sling. There are four basic types of markings which may or may not be found on the U.S. Carbine stocks. Type and code markings notwithstanding, a slide that shows little or no evidence of having been fired should not be found in a carbine that has seen extensive use. Some manufacturers used more than one
Barrels were a critical component in the production lines. 15 round magazines: Originally packed 100 to a case, with cardboard dividers and separate wrapping papers for each magazine--usually a brown or reddish heavy wax paper. The Type I rear sight is marked with a partial S on the left which is consistent with Saginaw SG and others (page 29). Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines and history here: Please don't Private Message me for Carbine questions. Most of our products are unique. Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. There is a light import mark on the right side of the barrel. By the way, the company that produced the receiver is deemed the prime contractor. Shortages were common
Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments authorization to sent an unknown quantity of receivers to Grand Rapids. There is no bayonet lug. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. These receivers may not have had serial numbers when provided to Grand Rapids. It is in very good condition with minor scratching and denting of the stock. The bore shows an M.E. Saginaw Carbines made in the original Saginaw, Michigan factory are marked S.G. or SG. Winchester made 828,059, followed by Underwood Elliott-Fisher at 545,616, own to figure out what you want. They didn't come any other way--period. Irwin-Pedersenhad assembled only 3,542 guns at the time, none of which were accepted by the government. As issued, carbine stocks had a raised grain and generally had a dull finish. It is only fair that some context of time be added to such comments. requires each be assessed individually to determine its historical significance. Many people have reconstructed many carbines with what they believe should have been on the carbine when it left the factory. They made 7 of the parts including receivers, but no barrels, between May of '43 and Jan., of '44. When the narrow L type non-adjustable rear sights were replaced by the adjustable variety during overhaul, the later types were generally staked into place by punch pricks on both sides of the sight base. And our
another state. It has a high wood stock and the serial number is in the 3.3 mils. There is a P stamp where it should be. Caveat Emptor! We get the FFL from your store others make you find it, copy it, and fax it. 7 day inspection period on all website purchases. Documents found in the past have identified several prime contractors who assigned subsets of their serial numbers to their subcontractor(s). Markings per component: -Barrel Bands -Type 1 (Early Narrow Band) -Inland: Marked "UI" "U" Or unmarked. The stock seems to be varnished. The sling well is marked RSG which was used bySaginaw SG, Irwin-Pedersen, and Saginaw Gear(page 108 109). I have a high wood Rockola on my early IP. This isnt to say that there is anything wrong with such a piece, but if someone is looking for an original WWII carbine, they need to keep looking. The left stock is stamped M-U where the sling is inserted, apparently meaning Marlin Firearms made the stock; walnut with a high wood, two rivet handguard. with Inlands war effort. There is no erosion. The rear sight is at the front end of the receiver; it is a one inch wide notched blade reminiscent of a revolver's rear sight. No documentation from Ordnance, or any of the prime contractors, has been found that indicates the date and serial number of carbines as they were assembled or when they passed
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No one, so far, at CMP has ID'ed it yet. I've had this M1 Carbine for about 20-years. Newer Post , Spotting a Restored or otherwise non-original M1 Carbine. Taming the SFAR: How Ruger's Small-Frame .308 Runs Suppressed. This M1 Carbine is 1 part short of being considered all matching. It is in about Very Good Plus to Fine condition. I just picked up a sear marked "XI". In all, more than 6.5 million M1 Carbines were produced between September 1941 and August 1945, making it one of the most prolific arms of World War II. A few of the manufacturers used subcontractors to manufacture their receivers. The rifle comes with a green canvas sling. The rear sight is at the front end of the receiver; it As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements. It is in great shape. It appears the bridge may have been eliminated on type III stocks
The latter looks like what you find on captured and refurbished German P-38 pistols that were made matching by manual application of an electric scribe. All Rights Reserved. Instead of buying a gun thats
The Carbine Collectors Club. 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. Most WWII carbines had hand guards with two rivets rather than the four rivet hand guards found on later production carbines and many rebuilds. A few unconverted type III stocks absent the bridge have
To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. Below is a breakdown of the parts: Barrel: Inland. Examples being outdated parts and prototype parts that had accumulated throughout the various
Such carbines may be fine collector items, but are not as desirable or valuable as original, unrestored carbines. Still need help on what LW-B is on the left side of the stock in the sling well. The right side of the receiver and the bolt light thinning from cycling. The markings on the
The bore and rifling are nice and shiny with just a hint of light pitting near the muzzle. Front sight marked with N. Military Crossed Cannons Cartouche on right mid stock face. Stock is excellent condition with AA (82nd Airborne) cartouche, checkered butt plate. Saginaw M1 Carbine .30 Carbine Semi-Auto Rifle Blue Sky Import - C&R - 12500203. Think of each serial number block as a separate contract. The magazine release is not an SG part. Saginaw Gear made receivers with wide locking tangs. This is not to imply thatonlythese parts are important as every component should be closely scrutinized. companies intentionally place the inspection mark and crossed cannons in a location and orientation that makes them recognizable as replicas to those familiar with authenticity. The most prominent marks are on the handguard. After the Irwin-Pedersen was canceled. If a stock has the longer barrel channel and thicker wood but is absent the cutout for the
Thinning on the trigger group. Top: M1 stock with no cutout for selector switchBottom: Cutout for M2 selector switch inside the left side of the stock. A. Box, Paperwork & Accessories:The rifle has a canvas sling attached. The Grand Rapids facility stopped carbine production on 01 Jan 1944 but continued to make receivers and trigger housings which were sent to the Saginaw Plant for assembly. your community AND if they have it in stock, you can pick your gun up
Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines here: Serial number blocks assigned by the government. That serial number was issued to Standard Products. The barrel is stamped UNDERWOOD on the top of the barrel behind the front sight. How long ago? The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. 4 1/16" (approx.) GENERAL MOTORS" It has been fitted with the adjustable sight, type 3 barrel band, and rotary safety sometime in We hope to raise awareness and understanding for the collector community, as well as encourage new collectors to join the hobby. If a Saginaw S'G' strip it down to see if it has any IP Irwin Peterson parts, could be a transitional carbine. The M2 Carbine had a selective fire capability i.e. full auto. Neither the M1 Rifle or the M1 Carbine had a selective fire capability. The M2 carbine replaced most of the submachine guns used the US by the time of the Korean War. I bought it a few years ago from another Calguns member. The M2 stocks were often used as replacement stocks for the M1's. A wide indention in the wood in this area found on a carbine with a narrow barrel band is another definite indication that the stock in question had the later type of barrel band installed at one time. Guns.com pledges to make gun buying easy, to support local gun stores, and to serve our I'll give you $150.00 for it so you can double your return , That's a beauty! The Underwood barrel is original. There are a variety of reasons things may have been changed or simply ignored. Need Help Identifying Marks and value on My New SG M1. Are you sure it is a Saginaw? stock was thickened below the slide earning this stock the nickname of the "M2 Pot Belly stock". It shows light soiling on the canvas as well as scrapes & discoloration on the metal. A brand new condition stock on a carbine with well-used metal components is a sure indication that something is amiss. Stay in the know. Most of the markings are deep. Sent the OP some pictures of an all S'G' I had listed here last year, didn't get a single request for pictures from members, and asked two questions but had no reply. The inside of the operating slide is marked SG which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 65). 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B Saginaw receivers with Saginaw serial numbers have been reported with S'G' markings. Resulting in the change of the design to the type V stock. The top of the barrel is marked INLAND MFG. No matter what you hunt, or what type of gun you prefer to hunt with, Guns.com offers options for everyone. We buy and sell collectible firearms and militaria ranging from the Civil War to Desert Storm, specializing in WW1 & WW2. Barrel Date: March, 1943 Caliber: .30 Carbine Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine Markings: $145.00 ea. It makes a difference. The ebb and flow of mass production created parts surpluses and shortages for all the prime contractors, barrels included. S&W Walther PPK/s Review: Obsolete or Concealed Carry Gem? Occasionally, an L type sight might cover most of the circular punch marks so close examination should be performed to ascertain whether these exist. General Motors Steering Gear Division. There are 2 Saginaw Gear manufacturers of M1 Carbines. Lighter colored wood such as birch was often stained darker before being finished. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Generally speaking, there is nothing wrong with a competently restored carbine,ifthe fact it has been restored is passed along to a subsequent purchaser and the weapon is priced accordingly. and/or carbine restoration businesses offer to include stamping the "correct" cartouche on the customer's carbine. The 15 round magazine is not available to residents of California or any other state with magazine capacity restrictions. I have never really studied the parts or did much research. The magazine shows scrapes, thin scratches, and discoloration from oxidation. There is light erosion at the muzzle. Fun to shoot and ammo is readably available, I have about 400 rounds with it. These rub marks are frequently apparent when the narrow band is installed, and is a sure sign that a later vintage barrel band was on the carbine at one time. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. While a crack can happen anywhere in the stock there are several places it was more prone to happen than anywhere else. There is grease residue on the receiver. The hammer is marked SG which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 89). Among the most sought after U.S. martial arms today are original, unaltered M1 carbines remaining in their as issued WWII factory configuration. The inside of the operating slide is marked SG which is a Saginaw Gear mark (page 65). Skip to the beginning of the images gallery, 73 Plank Ave Paoli,
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